Guys, your abbreviated title in the RSS feed as well as your URL states “Designs take a leap forward when you kill”. Even though this could be connected to your message, you should hold on some more words when designing your titles ;)
Stephan Redoog05 Nov 09
I find some of these “insights” a bit vague. Would be much more compelling if you at least gave an example of what led you to this profound realisation.
Steven Gavin05 Nov 09
what a load of crap
Wells05 Nov 09
This sounds like something you think is really clever when you’re stoned.
JackM05 Nov 09
I used to gain a lot from 37s postings. Now it’s mainly product updates and posts like this which tell me absolutely nothing.
Yes, I understand what it means – but it’s as useful as “banana sundaes are best when they’re prepared properly”. It’s a statement of fact that doesn’t help me in the slightest.
Time for a spring clean of the news feeds….
JF05 Nov 09
Jack: Can you point to specific examples of old posts you liked?
KC05 Nov 09
Lightbulb comments aren’t supposed to be full-fledged blog posts…interpret it, think about it…
If you’re a coder, think of a project where you’ve been trying to fix a bug or add a new feature but you’ve subconsciously shyed away from it because of the other rules that are in place – maybe they don’t have to be there to begin with.
If you’re a designer, think of a project where you’ve loved an element of the design so much that you wouldn’t consider parting with it – but maybe letting that go opens up other areas of the design that make the big picture better.
maureen05 Nov 09
well put KC. I understood what this insight meant immediately as I’m in the process of radically simplifying a product I’m designing. You take for granted some of the decisions you make in your design. You take a step back and realize you don’t need it. You edit and then the experience of the product completely changes.
Keep the insights coming. Pithy, to the point, a little morsel to reflect on. What’s wrong with variety—a mix of long and short form?
Paul05 Nov 09
KC… Thanks I’ve actually been wondering about the origins / actual purpose of the “INSIGHT” posts. didn’t notice the light-bulb until you pointed it out.
I find them interesting like “confuses says”, proverbs and fortune cookies.
As for examples of the past of articles I have enjoyed, I tend to really pay attention to the “Why / how we did …”, the articles that show your design sessions / communications. I watch the “new features posts” for much of the same reason, each new feature was put in for a purpose and you can learn a lot from seeing the change and luckily 37s is great about telling you why.
Ryan05 Nov 09
Off topic, but the RSS headline for this is funny: “INSIGHT: Designs take a leap forward when you kill”
Pieter06 Nov 09
I get you, totally. As you think you’ve realised this, you’ll soon enough realise that you’ve become attached to something else and and that you need to take another step back. It is a perpetual process.
@Thomas This section of your post is absolutely profound:
“Usability studies and focus groups are for refinement not for innovation.”
Hari Rajagopal06 Nov 09
Replace ‘Designs’ with ‘Life’ and it applies equally well.
Excellent.
peter07 Nov 09
a.k.a. “kill your darlings”
nik07 Nov 09
I can clarify this: The things you didn’t know you held on to become apparent when you sit back and realize they are there. Once you become aware, you can plainly see, and beliefs and blocks don’t need to be laboriously removed, they simply evaporate.
It’s an awakening of sorts, and it always leads to progress. This isn’t a designer truth, it’s one of life’s truths.
How to get from here to there, ah there’s a question. I prefer to sit back and do absolutely nothing. A lot of people, of course, can’t even do that.
“expect 80% of the ideas in an essay to happen after you start writing it, and 50% of those you start with to be wrong”
“be confident enough to cut”
and this essay also has one of the best endings I’ve ever read:
”...learn to recognize the approach of an ending, and when one appears, grab it.”
Now substitute “design” for “writing” and you get a very similar approach to this post’s insight.
Martial10 Nov 09
Programmer I’m working with recently rewrote a bunch of code. He’d been struggling with the UI until he took two days off. The first day he went out in the world, drove out to see the New England foliage, and didn’t turn on his computer. The second day he looked at sites whose UI he loves and just spent some time aimlessly navigating through them, entering text into boxes, simply using them. And on the third day, he ripped out what he’d been doing (and spinning his wheels on) and came up with something clean, clear, and intuitive. The new UI is useable in the best possible sense: fun, easy, pleasant.
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Ryan joined 37signals as a UI designer in 2003. He worked closely on the design and concept of Basecamp, Backpack, Highrise, and Campfire. Also a programmer and strategist, Ryan's role includes managing product development and guiding decisions at the company.
Realized by Ryan on November 5 2009. There are 22 comments.
Jamie, Baymard Institute 05 Nov 09
Care to elaborate?
Phillip Ridlen 05 Nov 09
Sounds good, but how can you go about finding these things you don’t know about?
Heiko Behrens 05 Nov 09
Guys, your abbreviated title in the RSS feed as well as your URL states “Designs take a leap forward when you kill”. Even though this could be connected to your message, you should hold on some more words when designing your titles ;)
Stephan Redoog 05 Nov 09
I find some of these “insights” a bit vague. Would be much more compelling if you at least gave an example of what led you to this profound realisation.
Steven Gavin 05 Nov 09
what a load of crap
Wells 05 Nov 09
This sounds like something you think is really clever when you’re stoned.
JackM 05 Nov 09
I used to gain a lot from 37s postings. Now it’s mainly product updates and posts like this which tell me absolutely nothing.
Yes, I understand what it means – but it’s as useful as “banana sundaes are best when they’re prepared properly”. It’s a statement of fact that doesn’t help me in the slightest.
Time for a spring clean of the news feeds….
JF 05 Nov 09
Jack: Can you point to specific examples of old posts you liked?
KC 05 Nov 09
Lightbulb comments aren’t supposed to be full-fledged blog posts…interpret it, think about it…
If you’re a coder, think of a project where you’ve been trying to fix a bug or add a new feature but you’ve subconsciously shyed away from it because of the other rules that are in place – maybe they don’t have to be there to begin with.
If you’re a designer, think of a project where you’ve loved an element of the design so much that you wouldn’t consider parting with it – but maybe letting that go opens up other areas of the design that make the big picture better.
maureen 05 Nov 09
well put KC. I understood what this insight meant immediately as I’m in the process of radically simplifying a product I’m designing. You take for granted some of the decisions you make in your design. You take a step back and realize you don’t need it. You edit and then the experience of the product completely changes.
Keep the insights coming. Pithy, to the point, a little morsel to reflect on. What’s wrong with variety—a mix of long and short form?
Paul 05 Nov 09
KC… Thanks I’ve actually been wondering about the origins / actual purpose of the “INSIGHT” posts. didn’t notice the light-bulb until you pointed it out.
I find them interesting like “confuses says”, proverbs and fortune cookies.
As for examples of the past of articles I have enjoyed, I tend to really pay attention to the “Why / how we did …”, the articles that show your design sessions / communications. I watch the “new features posts” for much of the same reason, each new feature was put in for a purpose and you can learn a lot from seeing the change and luckily 37s is great about telling you why.
Ryan 05 Nov 09
Off topic, but the RSS headline for this is funny: “INSIGHT: Designs take a leap forward when you kill”
Pieter 06 Nov 09
I get you, totally. As you think you’ve realised this, you’ll soon enough realise that you’ve become attached to something else and and that you need to take another step back. It is a perpetual process.
Thomas Petersen 06 Nov 09
I tried to explain it like this:
http://000fff.org/beyond-aesthetics-design-tips-for-startups/
iseem 06 Nov 09
And a design is finished when there’s nothing left to kill.
chrisBZ 06 Nov 09
@Thomas This section of your post is absolutely profound:
“Usability studies and focus groups are for refinement not for innovation.”
Hari Rajagopal 06 Nov 09
Replace ‘Designs’ with ‘Life’ and it applies equally well.
Excellent.
peter 07 Nov 09
a.k.a. “kill your darlings”
nik 07 Nov 09
I can clarify this: The things you didn’t know you held on to become apparent when you sit back and realize they are there. Once you become aware, you can plainly see, and beliefs and blocks don’t need to be laboriously removed, they simply evaporate.
It’s an awakening of sorts, and it always leads to progress. This isn’t a designer truth, it’s one of life’s truths.
How to get from here to there, ah there’s a question. I prefer to sit back and do absolutely nothing. A lot of people, of course, can’t even do that.
aris 08 Nov 09
Once all obstacles are removed, flow like water.
David S 08 Nov 09
Though written about the art of writing, Paul Graham’s fantastic essay could easily be adapted to design:
Writing, Briefly
excerpts:
and this essay also has one of the best endings I’ve ever read:
Now substitute “design” for “writing” and you get a very similar approach to this post’s insight.
Martial 10 Nov 09
Programmer I’m working with recently rewrote a bunch of code. He’d been struggling with the UI until he took two days off. The first day he went out in the world, drove out to see the New England foliage, and didn’t turn on his computer. The second day he looked at sites whose UI he loves and just spent some time aimlessly navigating through them, entering text into boxes, simply using them. And on the third day, he ripped out what he’d been doing (and spinning his wheels on) and came up with something clean, clear, and intuitive. The new UI is useable in the best possible sense: fun, easy, pleasant.
This discussion is closed.