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Cute, but seems too clever. I got this when I forwarded a message where someone earlier in the thread had talked about attaching. Wonder if Google tracks false positives in the wild?
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Not too cute in my opinion; this has saved me from sending e-mails missing attachments dozens of times. Along with the Gmail labs ‘undo-sending’ feature, it’s a godsend.
Thunderbird does this also. I have had several false positives but have also had several real times that I might have forgotten the attachment has thunderbird not reminded me. A alert box does seem fairly intrusive. Thunderbird just has a little bar that pops up across the bottom of the e-mail window.
I liked this feature until my company mandated a legal disclaimer on the bottom of the emails that included the word attachment. I had to click through this for every single email I sent. At the time, there was no way to turn it off. There may be now.
Its been a lifesaver for me. As someone looking for work and mailing out several emails to several people a day and really wanting to seem on the ball, its been good to have as a backup. And as for the rest of daily life, never had a false positive. Even so, I do understand and agree that it seems a little “spooky”.
Seems like the problem is it wasn’t clever enough to know to ignore forwarded text. Which is funny, since collapsing that stuff is one of GMail’s strengths.
LOVE THIS FEATURE because it’s actually saved me from being “stupid” on more than one occasion.
JF26 Jul 10
Saved me a couple times too. No false positives yet.
Amber Shah26 Jul 10
I got this just yesterday and turns out I had forgotten. False positives might be annoying in that case but the number of emails I’ve sent and received with no attachment leads me to believe this is super useful.
This also happens with the text “I’ve included” – a phrase I use all the time when adding someone to a thread. e.g. “I’ve included Steve Steveson on this email, who will more than happy to explain how to do [x]”.
I get at least two false positives a week because of this.
Anonymous Coward26 Jul 10
@Bill Nordwall. Well technically, you “copy” someone onto an email. Perhaps that would avoid false positives?
Another Anonymous Coward26 Jul 10
This was in Google Labs for awhile, but was so well received it was baked right into the product. (6 months / year ago / I forget, but remember reading it.)
Ironic: I saw this post this morning and sent an email that said “invoice attached…” (except obviously I forgot to attach the invoice). Google doesn’t recognize “attached”. (Tested 2X) Tested “I have attached” and it worked.
I searched gmail labs and couldn’t find the feature… I wanted to turn it on.
Joe26 Jul 10
To answer your question, yes, Google tracks false positives. They actually track every feature that you use in every one of their applications down to every click, keyboard shortcut, time, etc.
They actually calculate a “karma” score based on your usage patterns. The higher the karma you have, the more of a power user you are. Users with high karma get labs features first among other things.
I’m going to go against the grain and say I don’t like this feature. Any web-based service provider actively scanning your content for embedded targets is inherently a bad thing, even if it is covered by terms of use and its in pursuit of a laudable goal. What scans are they running they’re not telling you about?
I think real estate types would be the “right to quiet enjoyment of the premises”. In other words, just because he owns the place, doesn’t give your landlord the right to walk in and watch your TV and eat your food.
I realize this is an old argument, but worth re-iterating.
Good idea, poorly formulated question.
When I read “Did you mean to attach files?” I want to press “OK”, which would send it without the attachments.
Maybe it should ask “Send this email without attachments?”
The question you’re answering is “Do you want to send anyways?”. I agree that it’s not the best way they could’ve worded the alert box (people tend to skim the last half of boxes), but, in the context of the actual question, the buttons make sense.
As far as false positives, I’ve forwarded countless emails with “I’ve attached” in them without a trigger, and the feature has saved me a few time. The false positive was probably just a fluke.
Bill Nordwall27 Jul 10
@Anonymous Coward
Sure. But to paraphrase Michael Bolton from Office Space:
Why should I change the way I write? Google’s attachment feature is the one that sucks.
Scott28 Jul 10
Javascript alert boxes don’t let you have any other options than OK or Cancel, right?
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28 comments so far
Bruno 26 Jul 10
Not too cute in my opinion; this has saved me from sending e-mails missing attachments dozens of times. Along with the Gmail labs ‘undo-sending’ feature, it’s a godsend.
Jarin Udom 26 Jul 10
I definitely prefer getting a few false positives on this one.
Brian 26 Jul 10
I’ve sent countless emails without attachments with Outlook, but not with gmail thanks to this feature.
Eric Anderson 26 Jul 10
Thunderbird does this also. I have had several false positives but have also had several real times that I might have forgotten the attachment has thunderbird not reminded me. A alert box does seem fairly intrusive. Thunderbird just has a little bar that pops up across the bottom of the e-mail window.
Daniel Ice 26 Jul 10
I liked this feature until my company mandated a legal disclaimer on the bottom of the emails that included the word attachment. I had to click through this for every single email I sent. At the time, there was no way to turn it off. There may be now.
justus 26 Jul 10
Its been a lifesaver for me. As someone looking for work and mailing out several emails to several people a day and really wanting to seem on the ball, its been good to have as a backup. And as for the rest of daily life, never had a false positive. Even so, I do understand and agree that it seems a little “spooky”.
glenn mcdonald 26 Jul 10
Seems like the problem is it wasn’t clever enough to know to ignore forwarded text. Which is funny, since collapsing that stuff is one of GMail’s strengths.
Chris 26 Jul 10
I already saw this a while ago. Have a look at Mark Dredze, Tova Brooks, Josh Carroll Joshua Magarick, John Blitzer, Fernando Pereira. Intelligent Email: Reply and Attachment Prediction. Proceedings of the 13th international conference on Intelligent user interfaces. 2008..
Ricky 26 Jul 10
I also use this.
Rick 26 Jul 10
LOVE THIS FEATURE because it’s actually saved me from being “stupid” on more than one occasion.
JF 26 Jul 10
Saved me a couple times too. No false positives yet.
Amber Shah 26 Jul 10
I got this just yesterday and turns out I had forgotten. False positives might be annoying in that case but the number of emails I’ve sent and received with no attachment leads me to believe this is super useful.
pbruna 26 Jul 10
KMail from KDE , has this feature from many years.
RF 26 Jul 10
I’m with Amber Shah: I’ll take some false positives as long as the feature is a net win. Forgotten attachment detector definitely seems to be.
Bill Nordwall 26 Jul 10
This also happens with the text “I’ve included” – a phrase I use all the time when adding someone to a thread. e.g. “I’ve included Steve Steveson on this email, who will more than happy to explain how to do [x]”.
I get at least two false positives a week because of this.
Anonymous Coward 26 Jul 10
@Bill Nordwall. Well technically, you “copy” someone onto an email. Perhaps that would avoid false positives?
Another Anonymous Coward 26 Jul 10
This was in Google Labs for awhile, but was so well received it was baked right into the product. (6 months / year ago / I forget, but remember reading it.)
Ironic: I saw this post this morning and sent an email that said “invoice attached…” (except obviously I forgot to attach the invoice). Google doesn’t recognize “attached”. (Tested 2X) Tested “I have attached” and it worked.
I searched gmail labs and couldn’t find the feature… I wanted to turn it on.
Joe 26 Jul 10
To answer your question, yes, Google tracks false positives. They actually track every feature that you use in every one of their applications down to every click, keyboard shortcut, time, etc.
They actually calculate a “karma” score based on your usage patterns. The higher the karma you have, the more of a power user you are. Users with high karma get labs features first among other things.
Stan Hansen 26 Jul 10
Did I imagine this, or was google spying on me: http://browneggmarketing.com/quick-thought/2010/05/10/
This probably existed before I wrote that Blog post but just doesn’t work for Apps for business, just Gmail. Freaks me out either way.
Terence Gannon 26 Jul 10
I’m going to go against the grain and say I don’t like this feature. Any web-based service provider actively scanning your content for embedded targets is inherently a bad thing, even if it is covered by terms of use and its in pursuit of a laudable goal. What scans are they running they’re not telling you about?
I think real estate types would be the “right to quiet enjoyment of the premises”. In other words, just because he owns the place, doesn’t give your landlord the right to walk in and watch your TV and eat your food.
I realize this is an old argument, but worth re-iterating.
chriskalani 26 Jul 10
This has saved me tons of times though…
Chris 27 Jul 10
Good idea, poorly formulated question. When I read “Did you mean to attach files?” I want to press “OK”, which would send it without the attachments. Maybe it should ask “Send this email without attachments?”
Chris (from L.C.) 27 Jul 10
@Chris (am I talking to myself?!?)
The question you’re answering is “Do you want to send anyways?”. I agree that it’s not the best way they could’ve worded the alert box (people tend to skim the last half of boxes), but, in the context of the actual question, the buttons make sense.
As far as false positives, I’ve forwarded countless emails with “I’ve attached” in them without a trigger, and the feature has saved me a few time. The false positive was probably just a fluke.
Bill Nordwall 27 Jul 10
@Anonymous Coward
Sure. But to paraphrase Michael Bolton from Office Space:
Why should I change the way I write? Google’s attachment feature is the one that sucks.
Scott 28 Jul 10
Javascript alert boxes don’t let you have any other options than OK or Cancel, right?
Chris (from L.C.) 28 Jul 10
@Scott
Yes, that’s correct.
isley aardvark 29 Jul 10
I actually received a forwarded email without the needed attachment, had either of the two senders been using Gmail they probably would’ve caught it.
Anthony 30 Jul 10
I’m really wanting this feature in Apple’s Mail application. Its such a handy little thing to have!
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