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‘give me a break. Ruby on Rails in the top 5? Let’s get real.

This is good news for the Rails community… yes… things are still going strong! :-)

Congrats Guys!

John and other detractors – the author of this article is talking about technologies that have real impact right now and will continue to have real impact in 2007. This list is seeking emerging technologies that not only talk about “changing things” but actually will or will continue to change the industry. Mature technologies are out. Technologies with no real-life impact in 2007 are out. As the author said: “we paid special attention to how soon these advances will be available to everyday users.” Rails is an emerging technology that is available today. Rails has already changed the way developers work and the way they talk about the industry. Rails will grow faster in production deployments and technological advances in 2007 than in 04, 05, or 06. Fits the criteria for the author’s list perfectly, I think.

Those that don’t think so are going to get left behind, IMHO , and find themselves wishing they were Rails veterans but will never be able to. You can’t go back in time and become one of the earliest users of Rails, so why not jump on now and change the way you work forever? When Java got mainstream acceptance everyone tried to say they’ve been working in Java for ten years, when the language hadn’t even been around that long. I predict we’ll see the same with Rails five and ten years from now, IMHO . (I hate to sound like such a fanboy – so to temper my comments let me assure you that I also do post comments contrary to 37s on svn :) )

fanboy… just kidding… I’m reading Ruby For Rails currently, and I’m finding it quite interesting as my background is Java and Perl.

No offense to RoR, but that list is lame. Most technologists having little to gain by focusing on anything in that list.

How’s that for a feather in your cap? :) Nice job!

Good news about Rails. I would like to present Rails in my company as an alternative to PHP , does anyone have good documents about performance and scability about Rails?

Thanks. Benoit

Rails is just a framework, so it should work for any language. Ruby is not that popular in comparison to other languages. It is on the rise because of Rails, but what are the advantages of the language itself? What offers Ruby better, easier or otherwise different than the popular scripting languages?

I mean, it’s great to have a solid framework to work with, don’t invent the wheel twice etc. But to understand the popularity of the language, one should first discover why Ruby is better.

Other people are saying Turbogears (Python) is the future. But it depends on why the language is a better argument than the framework. It is a principality issue, not a popularity issue.

- Unomi -

Rails is just a framework, so it should work for any language.

Actually a lot of the power of Rails comes from the fact that it’s written using Ruby and does things that you simply can’t do in other languages. For example, how would you implement ActiveRecord’s dynamic finders in Java?

How would you implement ActiveRecord’s dynamic finders in Java?

That one is pretty easy.

Something like this in Rails: p = Person.find_by_username_and_password user, pass becomes this in Java: DynamicFinderFactory factory = new DynamicFinderFactoryImpl(Person.class); DynamicFinderCriteria criteria = new POJOFinderCriteria(); criteria.addField(new CriteriaField("username")); criteria.addField(new CriteriaField("password")); criteria.addOperator(new AndCriteriaOperator()); DynamicFinder finder = factory.createDynamicFinder(criteria); List<Person> found = finder.findInstancesByCriteria(); Person p = found.get(0);

But the advantage in the Java version is, it’s fully pluggable implementation with POJOs, EJBs, etc. behind a set of interfaces. You could even use some annotations to remove the verbose CriteriaField construction.

I think you just made my point for me!

Good news about Rails. I would like to present Rails in my company as an alternative to PHP

Am I the only one who can’t get that damn site to show up? Either in FF or IE 7 .

That’s one of the must blood-boiling online experiences I’ve had in the past year.

Shun the non-believers…. Charlie we’re going to the candy mountain…..

@Benoit: Jason Hoffman at Joyent has published a few papers on scaling and performance. Naturally I can’t actually find any right now :-( But this weblog entry might be a place to start: http://joyeur.com/2007/02/04/a-brief-update-with-some-numbers-for-hardware-load-balanced-mongrels

@andrew: thanks, it’s an interesting article.

Mashups are missing in the list!

Mashups are overrated.

RoR is overhyped.

On a similar note… 6 Things Your Business Should be Doing in 2007 (IT Wise)

I agree that Mashup’s are missing but will businesses see them just as fancy web site?