Besides Jason, another author that writes about the challenge of being a creative person in a similar way is Hugh MacLeod.
I credit his first book with helping me get my act together to start a company. And, he forced his publisher into letting you read most of it at: http://gapingvoid.com/ie/.
The GAP is not an easy thing to span…
GeeIWonder30 Jun 12
Why is it its then it’s? and why is a guy who can’t get the basics down giving life advice?
Michael30 Jun 12
GeelWonder, the poster was made by a designer who transcribed a portion of ann interview with Ira Glass, who is considered to be a successful public figure. Ira Glass would not make a mistake like that, and we are reading Glass’ words, not the designer’s.
LVNT01 Jul 12
The message is much more inspiring than the design. I kept reading, trying to clear away the visual clutter.
And GeelWonder, where do you see an improper “its”? Surely you understand the usage of “its” vs. “it’s,” otherwise you wouldn’t have commented, right?
Devan01 Jul 12
I agree that the ‘poster’ is a really bad design. Very hard to read and take away anything from that clutter of words that make your eyes jump all over the place.
Also, the wording itself seems a bit clumsy and seems to have an awkward measure, which doesn’t make them flow, nor stick in the memory at all.
There’s a huge gap from beginning a path to near finish it, and that’s experience. I’ve tried to use others experience to fill this gap, but without actual experience it’s impossible.
That’s absolutely fantastic. I hope that it’s true!
GeeIWonder02 Jul 12
@LVNT:
The ‘designer’ here has used both its and it’s for ‘it is’. That is the incorrect usage I was referring to. Plus it’s inconsistent. So it’s doubly wrong.
@Michael:
Point taken. But someone presumably took the trouble to type the thing up and ‘design’ fonts/layout to relay life advice and convey emphasis and do other graphic stuff that further tweak (and perhaps even change the meaning of) the original. And that someone, while clearly having an ability to randomize fonts, is missing the basics like command of the language the content is written in, and the ability to double check.
Terrence02 Jul 12
@GeeWonder: By ‘presumably’ you mean ‘I presume’. Of course someone is ‘able to presume’. Freshman grammar mistake but why is a guy who can’t get the basics down giving grammar advice.
Anonymous Coward with Taste02 Jul 12
“All of us who do creative work, we get into it because we have good taste”.
Right…
GeeIWonder02 Jul 12
@Terrence – What?
Bisset usage. OED . But also Patono etc etc.
But goodness knows we all make grammar mistakes. Sometimes even on purpose—such as ‘Gonna’ above.
GeeIWonder02 Jul 12
Here let me add an easy one for all the ‘freshmen’ level experts to play gotcha with:
Your not going to be hard pressed to find grammar errors. Even less so if you make up new rules (or misunderstand existing ones) about how some words can be used. And none of this, however, invalidates the original point.
i love it too. we need to stop comparing our amateur work with professionals, we learn from them so much that we always feel inadequate in hindsight, but the average person that needs our service often thinks we are the best, because they don’t see the flaws that we know are there, and we only know because we are always trying to be even better, really if you watch a dance team or ballet, or even a speech, the person makes mistakes but nobody notices except the other professionals – the average person doesn’t see the flaws because they are usually not an expert. My wife does excellent nail designs and everyone loves her work – but other nail techs come to her and they are very critical of her technique and watch very closely, but it is only because they know what to look for, the average client doesn’t care as long as the nails look great at the end.
so give yourself a break from your own critical eye, and just do a lot more work – practice, practice, practice – makes your work closer to perfect.
Michael02 Jul 12
GeeIWonder, I completely agree the grammar errors and some aspects of the design are amateurish. I personally would link someone to the original interview with Ira Glass before I linked them to the image. But, I wouldn’t denigrate the words on the poster because of the design of the poster. I think we’re on the same page here.
Michael02 Jul 12
Hah, I just noticed it’s “Gee I” and not “geel.” Sorry about earlier. I thought all these years that “Geel” was some unusual Dutch name.
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Yaniv Yaakubovich 29 Jun 12
David Shiyang Liu created a great video about it using Ira’s audio track http://vimeo.com/24715531
Abhi 30 Jun 12
I need to buy this as a poster!
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NL 30 Jun 12
For anyone who likes this, it’s extracted from a video that’s available on Youtube. All four parts of that video are well worth a watch.
Stefan Loble 30 Jun 12
Besides Jason, another author that writes about the challenge of being a creative person in a similar way is Hugh MacLeod.
I credit his first book with helping me get my act together to start a company. And, he forced his publisher into letting you read most of it at: http://gapingvoid.com/ie/.
The GAP is not an easy thing to span…
GeeIWonder 30 Jun 12
Why is it its then it’s? and why is a guy who can’t get the basics down giving life advice?
Michael 30 Jun 12
GeelWonder, the poster was made by a designer who transcribed a portion of ann interview with Ira Glass, who is considered to be a successful public figure. Ira Glass would not make a mistake like that, and we are reading Glass’ words, not the designer’s.
LVNT 01 Jul 12
The message is much more inspiring than the design. I kept reading, trying to clear away the visual clutter. And GeelWonder, where do you see an improper “its”? Surely you understand the usage of “its” vs. “it’s,” otherwise you wouldn’t have commented, right?
Devan 01 Jul 12
I agree that the ‘poster’ is a really bad design. Very hard to read and take away anything from that clutter of words that make your eyes jump all over the place.
Also, the wording itself seems a bit clumsy and seems to have an awkward measure, which doesn’t make them flow, nor stick in the memory at all.
Sorry – didn’t work for me at all…
Mike 01 Jul 12
I like the message. I hope that some day in the future I’ll be able to look back and say “hey, it was true”.
Jacob 02 Jul 12
Ironic that the poster looks so beginner.
Farsi dictionary 02 Jul 12
There’s a huge gap from beginning a path to near finish it, and that’s experience. I’ve tried to use others experience to fill this gap, but without actual experience it’s impossible.
Mark Mansour 02 Jul 12
“You’ve just gotta fight your way through.” Amen to that.
Jon 02 Jul 12
That’s absolutely fantastic. I hope that it’s true!
GeeIWonder 02 Jul 12
@LVNT: The ‘designer’ here has used both its and it’s for ‘it is’. That is the incorrect usage I was referring to. Plus it’s inconsistent. So it’s doubly wrong.
@Michael: Point taken. But someone presumably took the trouble to type the thing up and ‘design’ fonts/layout to relay life advice and convey emphasis and do other graphic stuff that further tweak (and perhaps even change the meaning of) the original. And that someone, while clearly having an ability to randomize fonts, is missing the basics like command of the language the content is written in, and the ability to double check.
Terrence 02 Jul 12
@GeeWonder: By ‘presumably’ you mean ‘I presume’. Of course someone is ‘able to presume’. Freshman grammar mistake but why is a guy who can’t get the basics down giving grammar advice.
Anonymous Coward with Taste 02 Jul 12
“All of us who do creative work, we get into it because we have good taste”.
Right…
GeeIWonder 02 Jul 12
@Terrence – What?
Bisset usage. OED . But also Patono etc etc.
But goodness knows we all make grammar mistakes. Sometimes even on purpose—such as ‘Gonna’ above.
GeeIWonder 02 Jul 12
Here let me add an easy one for all the ‘freshmen’ level experts to play gotcha with:
Your not going to be hard pressed to find grammar errors. Even less so if you make up new rules (or misunderstand existing ones) about how some words can be used. And none of this, however, invalidates the original point.
Michael Hall 02 Jul 12
i love it too. we need to stop comparing our amateur work with professionals, we learn from them so much that we always feel inadequate in hindsight, but the average person that needs our service often thinks we are the best, because they don’t see the flaws that we know are there, and we only know because we are always trying to be even better, really if you watch a dance team or ballet, or even a speech, the person makes mistakes but nobody notices except the other professionals – the average person doesn’t see the flaws because they are usually not an expert. My wife does excellent nail designs and everyone loves her work – but other nail techs come to her and they are very critical of her technique and watch very closely, but it is only because they know what to look for, the average client doesn’t care as long as the nails look great at the end.
so give yourself a break from your own critical eye, and just do a lot more work – practice, practice, practice – makes your work closer to perfect.
Michael 02 Jul 12
GeeIWonder, I completely agree the grammar errors and some aspects of the design are amateurish. I personally would link someone to the original interview with Ira Glass before I linked them to the image. But, I wouldn’t denigrate the words on the poster because of the design of the poster. I think we’re on the same page here.
Michael 02 Jul 12
Hah, I just noticed it’s “Gee I” and not “geel.” Sorry about earlier. I thought all these years that “Geel” was some unusual Dutch name.
ADI 02 Jul 12
Great poster, should be up in every office.
anitha 03 Jul 12
very nice words.. So beginners should be thankful now someone told us….
bikram 06 Jul 12
awesome quote…
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