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This is a story of 5 strangers, picked to live…

damn, out of words.

Everything around me.

And that’s my real world, no matter what people tell me.

A place where people who can’t “get real” rule.

When people stop being polite, and start getting real.

HA! 9 words.

A place where people reject change, no matter how beneficial.

A perfect 10. :)

When people talk about the “real world”, it’s usually because they consider the other person to be saying something that’s nice in theory, but lousy in practice. For example, saying that it doesn’t matter if an application breaks when you go offline and you can just take time out to relax instead. Nice in theory, but in the real world, it means you have to stop working and your clients phone you up to shout at you for not getting things done.

The color of my sons eyes will never be 2.0.

The universe where what you just said is wrong.

The real world is: Bullshit politics.

“What actually happens versus what is planned to happen.”

In the context of this post and issue?

“The place where a thing is no longer a theory.”

Life

I sometimes use “the real world” to mean the physical world—that which is not made up of bits and pixels. But, it’s probably not the best use of the expression, as it does also have this other connotation wherein “the real world” refers to the reality of deadlines, limited resources, stubborn managers, fear of change, and the like.

Like most overused expressions in our language, you can’t really define what it means in 10 words or less. You usually do, though, understand what the person saying it means when it is said.

In language, as in design: context is everything.

The real world:

“Where theory ends”

Although you shrug it off, there’s still possibly good feedback underlying that comment.

Can you guys do a blog post about the user testing you go through with your apps? I’d like to see what that process is like!

A equals A

Jim said it best but broke the rules…so here goes…

“Where practical, diverse and likely fluid requirements supercede localized theory.”

10 :-)

And, just to embarras the hell out of myself, let’s see i I can do this from memory…

“This is the true story of seven strangers, picked to live in a house and have their lives taped, to find out what happens when people stop being polite and start getting real.”

Yeah, I still watch that show. Damn, that’s embarrasing.

The world where people send 80 MB email attachments.

Hindsight is for blind visionaries.

Hell’s Kitchen

(Well, at least that’s what my stepmother always told me when I was growing up: “You don’t know what the real world is until you’ve lived in Hell’s Kitchen.” Who am I to argue with that?)

The “real” world…

“More complex and difficult than our general perceptions of it.”

The place where familiarity wins out over ingenuity.

Breath, intent, perseverance, then death.

Life outside the vacuum of idealism.

Right next door to Theory where instead, nothing works.

Messy. Rainy. Sunny. Crazy. Organized. Bloody. Fast. Hot. Cold. Stressed.

where the sh!t hits the fan

Somewhere on a beach on the north shore of Oahu.

That, and Bullshit Politics too.

“you don’t understand MY world” or “your products would never work in MY world” or “you’ve obviously never worked in MY world”

angry and mean people who don’t care about theory

I think we all need an acronym here: Reality – Every Autumn Leaves Inch Tto-the-ground. Yo! Or perhaps just: Reality is what we can well define with acronyms or bullet-point lists. Word.

Exactly when and where does this “real world” occur? – Almost Famous

(I’m not convinced it does)

The real world is where I work. In this world people:

- triple click everything - use MS Word as their file browser and constantly ask, “Why won’t this image open?” - think a virus is going to physically eat their computer - still buy Palm Pilots and call them Palm Pilots - insist on wild clicking when their hotmail account loads slowly - ask, “What’s GMail” - say, “The word google isn’t a verb” and number one: - STILL send WordPerfect documents

Sorry, there’s no way 10 words was going to cover it. I read this blog, I follow and use your products, I think what you do is great, but in most of the ‘real worlds’ that I know, it would take eons to teach someone to use Basecamp.

”...what does “real world” mean to you?”

The bitchslap I got when asking my wife that question.

Ten words if you don’t count the contraction of “it is”. It’s also a slight reference to “getting real”.

Where Anna is.

The airplane where you can’t use basecamp.

Someone is paying for it and wants their say.

one word under!

Internet Explorer 6

“There’s no such thing as a free lunch.”

An often used excuse for those unwilling to take risks.

“I’m so deep, three is four” - beau sia

It’s thrown around so often that it must mean something obvious.

Actually, it usually works the other way around. The more often a word or phrase is used, the less likely it has a clear or commonly agreed upon definition. Look at words like “evil” or “terror” as they get increasingly thrown around today, for an example.

Can’t remember who I’m stealing this from, but my favorite definition of the real world is…

Whatever doesn’t go away when you stop believing in it.

The gigantic middle section of the bell curve.

What you see when you choose the red pill.

Then you tell them, “And since you don’t look like Carrie Anne Moss or sound like Laurence Fishburne, you don’t get to lecture me on what constitutes reality.”

I’ll do it in two: “My world”

What the person is usually saying is “in my past experience something like that wouldn’t have worked for one or a bunch of reasons I’m not able to articulate right now.”

Doesn’t mean it won’t work now, or wouldn’t work for someone else. But it’s also not entirely bullshit.

Appealing to the lowest common denominator…

“Shut up.”

Thats the ticket to the real world. Talk less, do more.

“People create too much crap to work with one system.”

Conforming to the status quo out of fear and laziness.

Conforming to the status quo out of fear and laziness.

a place not definable in ten words definitions

“Emotions of the user plus context of the task”

yeah what they said times 10!

“dirty”

The real world to me is a series of tubes.

3 words: Bills to pay :S

Rapidly Changing Requirements

A place where the consequences of your actions are unpredictable

The ‘real world’ is: Arguments for the existence of something beyond my experienced reality.

“In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.”

Hmm, not quite 10 words. Let’s try this:

Theoretically, there’s no difference between theory and practice. Practically, there’s.

Doesn’t sound quite as clever that way.

Reality is the pause in the ocean’s waves.

Unpredictable. Unintended consequences.

“A set of problems looking for solutions”

Entry Words: Real World Function: FUD Text: 1: An environment bound by a person or groups limitations.

Entry Words: Real World:

Function: FUD

Text: 1: An environment bound by a person or groups limitations.

real is the perception of the world around you.

or

life outside of the internet theories and blog posts.

It only takes three words to define “in the real world”.

“In normal usage.”

Mostly harmless.

Real world if where you better nightmares Get Real.

Where it is actually only 5 inches, not 8.

Useable, useful and desirable by your average, lazy, couch potato.

The real world is a good place to live and apply “the secret.”

Where immediate maximized benefit trumps any other concern.

The world as I see it.

Our common objective existence.

A place where logic often loses out to greed.

Paraphrasing John Lennon, the real world is “what happens while you are making other plans”.

Greetings,

Fun becomes boredom, Boring things are necessary. Theory fails. Sadness.

— Morgan

A world that frequently eludes faithful representation by use cases.

“Real World is… working from a real problem to solution.”

(Most issues flagged as not “real world” are solutions to problems that are not very good dispictions of real problems.)

“Real World is… selling an answer to uninformed executive decision-makers.”

(Most issues never get solved because decision-makers are unwilling to consider the risk of not finding answers to the real questions.)

“Real World is… understanding the problem and cheapening the solution.”

(Most issues never get answers, only temporary bandages that are mended forever.)

“Real World is… reducing concern to the shortest attention span.”

(Most issues never get considered seriously if they cannot get boiled down effectively into a one quarter page executive summary.)

“Real World is… solving a problem yesterday without a budget.”

(Most issues don’t get solved in reality because people would rather kick-off a project that addresses an issue rather than actually appropriately address an issue.)

“Real World is… debunking a smoke and mirrors vendor demo.”

where computers cause anxiety and legal has the last word.

An actual product with actual users.

The ‘real world’ is … 1 – “Practical concerns of environmental immediacy” 2 – “Too close to put words between you and it”

I prefer #2 but I think most people are talking about #1

Almost a 5-7-5 haiku Morgan, I like!

A place full of non-savvy idiots who don’t care.

Perceived constraints (sometimes real) in the work environment.

Go Cubs. (2 words left ;-)

That’s easy: http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist.html

Welcome to the real world :-)

My mother can understand how to use it with little to no experience.

“I’m afraid you will succeed where I wish I could.”

It depends…

The paycheck figure on WEB 2 .0 companies cleaning service workers

Greetings,
Thanks MP! I tried, but it was off the cuff and I guessed at it.

10 words + haiku == embracing constraints, right? :)

— Morgan

Where just good enough is just good enough.

The Real World: A place where most of the time, you don’t get your way.

Or such is how my mother described it to me.

Practical application.

In production, with users using it.

Pretty simple to me. If you don’t have people using the thing, it isn’t real. But beyond that, there’s really no honest explanation of why people say that other than as a put-down since they’re implying they are in the real (hard) world and you aren’t.

As Bruce Schneier puts it:

In theory; theory and reality are the same. In reality; they’re not.

Contrast: You pay yourself to sit home and play. Dreamy!

Because I said so that’s why.

“The life of man: solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”

Thomas Hobbes The Leviathan

The real worls is where murphy’s law proves itself correct

When something can actually be used.

That which is not modeled properly by thirty seven signals.

/jk

;)

Blogging. No, really. It’s just as real as any real.

THIS , here, NOW , sitting, eating, BREATING , Enjoying, LOVING , working, doing IT

Get it done, get it done, get it done, yesterday!

The real world is just a figment of your imagination.

Nobody discusses “the real world” in the real world. Nobody.

Real World is:

- “Where committees decide what the right choice is”

- “Where fear of looking stupid trumps trying to improve”

- “Where the road to hell is paved with good intentions”

The real world is objective reality as opposed to emotional, subjective “reality.”

zion

Hey Miles—not all of us work for the government.

;)

What is “the real world”?

My world. My limits. My fears. My complexity and complications.

Too complex for 10 words, or 10 worlds. :)

“Don’t tell me your story, give me the meat”

It’s not your fault, it’s just your problem.

Forget about what you want, embrace what you have.

Where inflexible people and processes prove your best theories wrong.

Mom and Dad the Buick, arguing about rotten tomatoes.

Mom and Dad in the Buick, arguing about rotten tomatoes.

(woops, forgot the word “in” in the previous comment)

The real world: Everyone, everywhere, at all times.

Don’t design for that.

the ‘real world’ is;

1 historical 2 events 3 shaping 4 the 5 expectations 6 of 7 an 8 imagination-9 less 10 person.

which is all WRONG . great post.

“nobody actually cares about your products and ideas, only themselves.”

I think this qualifies as real world in 10 words.

In the real world, you aren’t limited to 10 words.

the real world in one word:

“NOW”.

I’ll have a go at it.

The real world is where exceptions are not handled gracefully.

Somebody ask these guys. (See image in top right corner)

Understand what, how or why. Choose one.

Here is mine, I think it’s quite fitting give the various bullshit circumstances it’s been used in on certain blogs today….

” The very last resort for someone out of good arguments.”

This isn’t universal truth. It only works in your case.

Or possibly…

The business speak equivalent of But Will It Scale?

The real world is where you are after you “get real”.

The real world… – take 1: The parts that are missing from your pretty model – take 2: The floor underneath your ivory tower – take 3: Expression that automatically demerits the speaker – take 4: Frustration between your idea and the pot of gold – take 5: Place were mediocre people like myself voice their opinion

In the context of this post: My hypothesis as opposed to your hypothesis.

This reminds me of the quote used by Adam from Mythbusters: I reject your reality and substitute my own.

The real world is predictable if you get lucky enough.

What is, versus what could, should, ought, might be.

The real world should be fun, fast, cheap, and easy.

Hmm, actually that sounds like a hooker.

TAXES , I payed through the nose last year!

‘Real world’ is such a narrow perspective.

Within context, within environment, and through past experience may construct his/her “real world”.

I believe in Einstein’s three words.

Everything is relative.

the eventual home of every good and/or bad idea.

(generally used as a negative by those who either fear said world, have never truly enjoyed it, or are no fun to begin with.)

Entropy.

That which is consistently beyond conception

Whatever can come to be, caused in order to be

Whatever I think because I’m so much better than you!

That’s the real world baby!!! :D

Oh, and what Des Traynor said. Often used as a last resort in an argument, aka ‘Making it Personal’ fallacy.

This is a silly question. Cheap post. We all know what the concept of “real world” means and defining it in 10 words or less is trivial. Please don’t waste our time.

“I haven’t got the charisma to convince others to do this.”

The Real World™ is where “anything that can go wrong, will”

Or is that Murphy’s Law?

Whateve.

The real world is undefined.

Right here, right now.

excuses

[The real world] ... As in “you don’t understand the real world” or “your products would never work in the real world” or “you’ve obviously never worked in the real world.”

With reagard to this usage of the term, my definition would be:

“The real world is the sum of someone’s preconceived notions”

10 words

It is also a dumb reality-tv show, and the place Keanu goes when he’s unplugged from the Matrix.

messy. broken. beautiful. seven words is enough.

Where college professors work before they go into education.

where apathy & pessimism masquerade as the status quo

The real world is my playground.

real world: “promises are broken, compromise happens.”

One where five billion people live instead of just one

Everything

everything on this planet minus you

Perspective, Context, Perception.

in real world nobody wants to think even a bit

in context of both sides of interface )

The world beyond your imagination.

“is a negligible bubble in the ocean of Universe”

To keep on the business topic the real world is “where people pay real money for what you offer”.

Where people don’t have G5 Macs with 24-inch monitors.

the scales may be tipped now, but balance awaits patiently

where people who envy your life live, and are miserable.

Let

Love

Rule

Sorry for double posting, but it would’ve been more interesting if it had been: apply 10 tags or less to real world.

love, hate, human, earth, universe, life, death, dream, time

Here now, nowhere tomorrow…

And/or

“Real” for none, some “real” for some, “real” for only one

Where people see “wow” and think “great” instead of “nerds”.

Welcome to the Social™.

Motivated by Pain and Pleasure with Pain being the biggest motivator.

Data collected by my senses distorted by my prejudices.

176 comments about the “real world” and nobody has said the word “cubicle?” What about watercooler? Casual Friday? Synergize?

“real world” – Paying bills, bad things happening to good people and having to work!

Don’t be silly, Toto. Scarecrows don’t talk.

“The real world is way more complicated than that!”

The offline world. Tee hee, 7 words left, oh wait….

Real world? What? You mean meatspace?

Life is like running with the Red Queen (Through the Looking Glass). Constantly running just to stay where you are. You have to run even harder to get ahead.

The “real world” is the expectation that I should express myself in ten words or less.

The place where an expert is not always technically savvy.

There is no one real world ! :-(

Real World (reel-wurld)

n. Actual people in actual situations, interacting with actual systems.

The place that always differs from your imagination.

I’ve found that the “real world” is typically synonymous with “my own personal world of insecurity and fear”.

A good friend and I have coined a term we feel fits this attitude perfectly: “Begrudgal”

The curious is what every different person has his own percepcion of real world. So real world means diversity.

“What I imagine is real, what you imagine is unreal” :)

Where people agree with me but not with you.

“Taxes are due and I’m reading a blog. Oh shit.”

(there… ten words. I’d say 3 of them are deductible. oh hell let’s say 5.)

debt, bills, career struggles, but also love, beauty, and passion.

Paraphrased from John Lennon:

It’s what’s actually happening while we’re busy making other plans.

Ironically more people are “real” and direct in Second Life.

:)

the world described through existing data without considering disruptive change.

Hmm. Ten words, indeed. But so much more to say on that issue. For now I’m just gonna leave it at being glad that there are plenty of people who are willing to go further than this constructed cage called the “real world”

A boot stomping on a human face, forever.

When people say “you haven’t worked in the real world”, they seem to mean “you haven’t been in a mind-numbing, senseless, endless job”.

When people say “you haven’t worked in the real world”, they seem to mean “you haven’t been in a mind-numbing, senseless, endless job”.

real word : “This prosaic and suffocant ambient around us.”

getting the job done, rationalizing happiness through toil for sustainance

kindof on topic: http://xkcd.com/c137.html

nice call for submissions, Internet Explorer 6! Ha!

Lacking sufficient time for brevity, the real world is changing.

The real world is what you make of it.

A completely ridiculous joke… Seriously… Punch anyone who says that!

the real world is… “the other 70%”

90% of everything is crap. thats the law. real life is dealing with that crap. and enjoying the 10%. if you’re lucky.

Real World: “The perspective to which another tenaciously and ignorantly holds.”

The Real World: Bludgeon used on ideas when you’re missing the point.

Pareto called, you are part of the 80 percent

Where everyone realizes they’re just primates trying to have fun.

It’s not the same pejorative thrown around by the Important People, but if there really is a definition of the “real world,” I prefer this one.

Its what everyone thinks they own, but have no idea.

Invoke the ‘real world’ is like…

“Whenever people say ‘We mustn’t be sentimental,’ you can take it they are about to do something cruel. And if they add ‘We must be realistic,’ they mean they are going to make money out of it.”

Brigid Brophy

The place around you. Everything around you.

Reality conforms to the truth, not the other way around.

Thusly, the real world is:

The truth in action.

I think real world depends on your perspective and your goals. Some will argue that it’s not real world to have a small development team with short design and development cycles, others will argue it’s not real world to have the bloat of a typical enterprise IT department.

I wrote more about that on my site: http://www.brianburridge.com/2007/04/11/the-real-world/

My definition of “Real World” is “Chaotic Rule Spectrum”.

There are rules, but there are always exceptions which break the rules, making the rules invalid. For the rules which can never be broken, they are simply ambiguous definitions, cannot be validated by itself and therefore, unbreakable.

‘Out of Mind’.

So the Matrix is not. And ideas that does not obey Real-World rules of action, such as: I will get rich, without working hard.

At where we are, being smart fooling the system, in such meaning that: you just simulate the rule of ‘obey Real-World rules of action’ is what Get you Real.

Where products are used, not just made.

The only constant is change.

‘now’

Where people think technorati is some kind of pasta dish.

wake wash eat drive work drive eat sleep wake worry

“My experience equals the sum of the universe, yours doesn’t.”

where there are no assumptions

A relative, constructed mental space, used as proof in arguments.

Do you mean the real real world or not? ;-)

The Real World : Where Dreams Never Come True.

The Real World : Only God Knows.

The Real World : When your girl-friend leaves you, there is no ’ back ’ button…

The Real World : the place which was not designed by a software developer.

The real world refers to the concrete and abstract property or REAL estate owned by the authority figures lording over you.

When a person who does not own such property, a minion or lackey (or ass kisser), pulls the “real world” card they are effectively asking me to submit to the will of these property owners.

So it seems harmless to the properly assimilated. But, for the rest of us who dare to think outside of the box, the “real world” is no less than an appeal for slavery. So get your Confederate flags and keep it real!

Somewhere short of ideal.

Where complex, often illogical, constraints prevent simple plans from succeeding.

Everything after school.

School, apparently, is the fake world.

Not in Afghanistan, where I am.

6 words, how’s that? ;)

Whoa. http://holst.biz/notes/2007/01/19/the-real-world/

Something I utterly avoid whenever possible!

human

world where definitions are not limited to 10 words max

Helmuth Von Moltke would say, “on the battlefield”