Crain's Chicago Business interviews Jason Aug 27 2007
18 comments Latest by David
Crain’s Chicago Business recently posted a video interview with Jason where he discusses avoiding structure, how interruption is the enemy of productivity, why it’s a good idea to emulate drug dealers, the secret to competing with free stuff, and more. Check it out.

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18 comments so far
Matt Radel 27 Aug 07
Very nice. I love the crack analogy – makes total sense!
Dave Greiner 27 Aug 07
Great interview Jason. You points about staying away from each other to get the most done really hit home to me. We’re in the process of changing our work environment right now purely to minimize interruptions and help our team stay in the zone.
Kris Khaira 28 Aug 07
“Today’s kids are tomorrow’s customers”.
briano 28 Aug 07
great anecdote about why you decided to go with jeff bezos. having someone in your corner for support seems so simple, but goes a long way.
the interview reminds me of brazilian ricardo semler of semco. he’s managed to build a very successful company that does little planning, has minimal structure and gives employees the responsibility and opportunity to make decisions.
this interview, so great!
JF 28 Aug 07
Briano, Ricardo Semler is one of my business heros so I’m flattered by the comparison!
Seth 28 Aug 07
All those customers and you can’t afford an iron JF? :)
Only kidding…cool interview. I like how you could barely keep a straight face when mentioning “the first hit’s free” mentality. hahah.
JF 28 Aug 07
Seth: It’s called linen! ;)
Jack 28 Aug 07
i work for a small company too. we have total of 20 people but only six on the dev team. Sadly, we are not lose structure. we have CEO , COO, Makreting, Project Manager…etc.
i agree with interruption is the biggest enemy of productive. sometime it is hard to work on something when your co -worker skype you something about what she/he did yesterday or whatever. i think it will be much better if we are allow to work remotely.
anyway, great interview.
Nic 28 Aug 07
Working remotely is not going to stop that!
dushan 28 Aug 07
Great Interview. I love the bit about planning. Reading Getting Real and Art of the Start I have a completely new view on plans.
JB 28 Aug 07
Great! Check out Paul Graham’s “Holding a program in one’s head”.
JB
Cecil 30 Aug 07
Great interview. Clear, simple, passionate.
This radical and alternative approach of the software business really reminds me of the emergence of the alternative rock scene in the early 80s.
Strong opinions, independence from major companies (read here investors) with complete control on the artistic aspect (read here strategy), keeping the energy, KISS and DIY approach of the punk scene (read web 1.0 start-ups) without the self destructive (read burning cash flow) drawbacks.
Just a comment though : regardless on how high I rate 37Signals, I still doubt you could get on the hardware or mobile market without getting bigger.
JF 31 Aug 07
regardless on how high I rate 37Signals, I still doubt you could get on the hardware or mobile market without getting bigger.
The interview you saw was about 5 minutes picked out of about 60 minutes of footage. I don’t think we’re moving into the hardware area either—it was just a comment pulled without context.
The point was that we don’t plan and 4 years ago we were designing web sites for clients. We had no idea we’d be writing software that we’d sell over the web as a subscription-based service. So who knows what else we may do next.
Thanks for the kind words about the interview, BTW .
cecil 31 Aug 07
I fully understand you guys dont have a plan. That’s what we love with your company.
What I was saying is that this very 37Signals strategy is a full match when it comes to deliver software through the internet.
My understanding is that your company has probably been one of the best in the IT industry to fully leverage the immense power of the so called web 2.0. If I may seize the chance, I talk about it there.
But on the other hand, I am not sure that this strategy would be such a fit in the hardware or mobile industry.
Dont get me wrong : I’m not saying you wouldn’t succeed.
sarah 02 Sep 07
I don’t think it’s realistic to imagine that one can work without interruptions. More importantly, people need to learn how to speak to one another diplomatically and with respect.
And working remotely just increases the delay when something really needs to be discussed. Organization and structure still play a vital role in any business.
Too bad business doesn’t seem to have the class that it once did… drug dealers? Isn’t that the point of being in business… so that you can aspire to something higher than carnal desires and base mentality of snorting and scratching through your day?
sarah 02 Sep 07
I don’t think it’s realistic to imagine that one can work without interruptions. More importantly, people need to learn how to speak to one another diplomatically and with respect.
And working remotely just increases the delay when something really needs to be discussed. Organization and structure still play a vital role in any business.
Too bad business doesn’t seem to have the class that it once did… drug dealers? Isn’t that the point of being in business… so that you can aspire to something higher than carnal desires and base mentality of snorting and scratching through your day?
JF 02 Sep 07
I don’t think it’s realistic to imagine that one can work without interruptions. More importantly, people need to learn how to speak to one another diplomatically and with respect
1. Limiting interruption is the goal, not eliminating it completely. Longer stretches of interruption-free time allow you to focus on your work and get more things done.
2. We speak to each other often, diplomatically, and with respect. Limiting interruption has nothing to do with how we talk. In fact, it makes the times we do talk even more important.
David 03 Sep 07
That interview hit home for me also.
@Sarah: Yeah I have a response…What?
:D (only the cool kids will get that)
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