SEASON 2 - EPISODE 129 - OCTOBER 30, 2024

V1 is for Us

In this week’s episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals’ co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share their approach to product design, explaining why the first version of a product (V1) is always built for the company’s internal use case. They discuss responding to user feedback and...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 128 - OCTOBER 23, 2024

Principles of Communication

37signals’ co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share insights from their write-up, The 37signals Guide to Internal Communication. They discuss effective communication strategies within the company and with the public, offering practical advice to consider when conveying messages.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 127 - OCTOBER 16, 2024

Say No by Default

In their book REWORK, 37signals’ co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson write about the power of saying no. This week on the podcast, they revisit that idea, diving into the hidden costs of saying yes and the burden of commitments that often come with it. They also discuss how saying...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 126 - OCTOBER 9, 2024

Preparing for Meet-up

Twice a year, 37signals brings the entire team together for a company meet-up. In this week’s episode of The REWORK Podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson reflect on how these meet-ups began and how they’ve evolved over time. They also discuss how they prepare for the meet-ups...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 125 - OCTOBER 2, 2024

Achieving Optionality

37signals’ co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson explore the many benefits of having full control over their business. They talk about the importance of taking measured profits and running an efficient operation, which allows freedom to create without constraints. This approach gives...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 124 - SEPTEMBER 25, 2024

Progressing in Public Speaking

It’s been reported that up to 75% of the population has a fear of public speaking. This week, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, recount some of their previous speaking engagements and share a few tips for building the skill. They discuss the styles of successful...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 123 - SEPTEMBER 18, 2024

Everybody Works

37signals’ co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss their unique approach of operating without full-time managers. They reflect on the company’s experience with full-time managers and share why they’ve moved to a flatter organization.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 122 - SEPTEMBER 11, 2024

Dare to Be Basic

This week, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, examine why it’s advantageous to keep things simple — in both products and business. They challenge the idea that complex or bespoke tools are the best way to go and lean into not overcomplicating things.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 121 - SEPTEMBER 4, 2024

How We Work: Kickoffs & Heartbeats

37signals works in 6-week cycles, which begin with a Kickoff and wrap up with a Heartbeat. In this week’s REWORK podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson break down the purpose and benefits of the Kickoff and Heartbeat documents and share tips for implementing this process...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 119 - AUGUST 21, 2024

Using AI for Writing, Being Facebook Free, and other Listener Questions

In this episode, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, return from a summer hiatus to answer a new set of listener questions. They dive into topics like the role of AI in writing and their updated thoughts on staying Facebook-free. REWORK host, Kimberly Rhodes also gets...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 118 - JULY 17, 2024

Scratch Your Own Itch (Replay)

In their book REWORK, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson write about the benefits of building products and services that you use yourself. “The easiest, most straightforward way to create a great product or service is to make something you want to use.” In this episode, originally aired...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 117 - JULY 10, 2024

Listener Questions: Ops Edition

In this episode of the REWORK podcast, host Kimberly Rhodes chats with Eron Nicholson from 37signals’ operations team. He shares insight on his role and the department’s various functions. The conversation covers details on the ops team structure, system reliability, global expansion projects and...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 116 - JULY 3, 2024

Listener Questions: HR Edition

In this episode, Andrea LaRowe, Head of People Operations at 37signals, joins host Kimberly Rhodes to answer questions about the company’s HR practices. They discuss the company’s management structure and performance evaluations and what the company looks for when hiring. Andrea also shares what’s...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 115 - JUNE 26, 2024

The Aim for a Name

In this podcast episode, Kimberly Rhodes talks with Jason Fried, CEO and co-founder of 37signals, about the process of naming products. He discusses practical considerations like domain availability, trademarks, and logo design.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 114 - JUNE 19, 2024

ONCE (again)

In this episode, Kimberly Rhodes hosts a discussion with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the co-founders of 37signals, about their newest product. And the best news? It will be free and simple to use.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 113 - JUNE 12, 2024

Founder-led Marketing

REWORK’s host Kimberly Rhodes discusses the unique marketing approach of 37signals with its co-founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson. They talk about how their process is simply sharing their perspectives and products, instead of traditional advertising. They champion genuine...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 112 - JUNE 5, 2024

For the Love of Linux

In this podcast episode, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes talks with David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founder of 37signals and CTO, about his personal shift from using Apple products to exploring Linux and Windows platforms. He discusses the expanded platform integration at 37signals, which now includes all...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 111 - MAY 29, 2024

The Subtle Art of Staying Out of It

In this episode, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes, talks with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, about the importance of stepping out of the day-to-day operations as a founder. Giving employees room to call the shots can spark new ideas and get things done faster. It also...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 110 - MAY 22, 2024

Behind the Scenes of the REWORK Podcast

Elaine Richards, 37signals’ Chief Operating Officer, shakes things up by flipping the script on host, Kimberly Rhodes. They discuss the behind-the-scenes work of producing the REWORK podcast and selecting topics that resonate with the audience. They even dive into Kimberly’s background in podcasting...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0109 - MAY 15, 2024

A Matter of Ambition — Part 2

In this episode of REWORK, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, continue their discussion on ambition, focusing on generating ideas and the process of deciding which projects to pursue. They talk about the importance of experimentation, and how they decide which...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0108 - MAY 8, 2024

A Matter of Ambition

In this episode of REWORK, host Kimberly Rhodes alongside 37signals co-founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, talk about the company’s renewed sense of ambition and excitement for upcoming projects. They highlight the importance of keeping things fresh, while emphasizing the balance...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0107 - MAY 1, 2024

How We Work: Summer Fridays

In this episode, host Kimberly Rhodes chats with 37signals’ co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson about the company’s Summer Fridays policy, which grants employees a four-day workweek from May to September. While the perk encourages work-life balance and a feeling of seasonality,...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0106 - APRIL 24, 2024

A Spin-Off Story

In the podcast, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes talks with 37signals co-founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, about their journey spinning off products. They stress the value of keeping contracts simple and how once the handover is done, it’s best to take a hands-off approach and let the...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0105 - APRIL 17, 2024

Disagree and Commit

“Consensus is cozy, but broad agreement is not our aim. The right decision is. Which is why we take the time to think, debate, persuade, listen and reconsider and then, someone, decides. If you disagree, that’s fine, but once the decision is made, it’s time to commit and support it completely.”

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0104 - APRIL 10, 2024

Strangers at a Cocktail Party

Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the co-founders of 37signals, dive into their book REWORK and discuss the essay “Strangers at a Cocktail Party” with REWORK host, Kimberly Rhodes. From their experience, hiring too many people at once can throw off the balance and continuity of a company’s...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0103 - APRIL 3, 2024

The Wrong Time for Real Time

This episode of REWORK delves into an essay from the book “It Doesn’t Have To Be Crazy At Work,” co-authored by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, advocating for the use of asynchronous communication for work projects. During the discussion, they explore the downside of chat and suggest it be...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0102 - MAR 27, 2024

More Than a Month of ONCE

In this episode of REWORK, host Kimberly Rhodes sits down with the co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, to provide an update on their latest product — Campfire, under the ONCE umbrella — just about one month after its initial launch. ONCE introduces a new software...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0101 - MAR 20, 2024

How We Work: Finding the Right Team

37signals is hiring! However, the traditional resume and formal education credentials don’t rank as high as you might think in their hiring process.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0100 - MAR 13, 2024

A New Take on Platform Preferences

David Heinemeier Hansson recently revealed that he’s making the switch from Apple to Android and trading in his Mac for a PC. In this week’s episode, co-founders of 37signals Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the shift in direction, the events that led to the change of platform, and...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0099 - MAR 6, 2024

Rapid Fire with Jason & David

Kimberly is switching things up this week and taking a more casual approach with the co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, asking them a series of rapid fire questions. Jason, for example, reveals the book that granted them permission to forge their unique path, while...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0098 - FEB 28, 2024

Press Releases Are Spam

Kimberly sits down with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson to discuss a chapter from REWORK titled “Press Releases Are Spam,” explaining why traditional press releases don’t work well for their product launches. The conversation touches on the shift from formal press releases to...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0097 - FEB 21, 2024

Keep Calm and Delete the Tweet

Join host Kimberly in this episode for a candid chat with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson. Diving into a recent social media controversy, they discuss the decision-making process and lessons learned. The conversation covers the challenges of public communication, navigating social media,...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0096 - FEB 14, 2024

The Myth of the Overnight Sensation

This week, join your host Kimberly Rhodes along with the co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, as they celebrate Basecamp’s 20th and 37signals’ upcoming 25th anniversaries. The excitement extends to the success of their book REWORK, which recently surpassed a million...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0095 - FEB 7, 2024

It's All a Judgment Call

Chances are, you’ve heard Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson stress the vital role of trusting your instincts in business.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0094 - JAN 31, 2024

Readying for Launch

Product launches can be a delicate dance between anticipation and anxiety.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0093 - JAN 24, 2024

REWORK Live!

In this special YouTube live episode, co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, join host Kimberly Rhodes to field live questions from listeners.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0092 - JAN 17, 2024

User Testing, Stoic Philosophy, and Other Listener Questions

In this episode of REWORK, the spotlight is on listener questions. Listen in as Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share their insights on a range of topics — from 37signals’ approach to user testing and the impact of Stoic philosophy on their business principles, to discussions on profits and...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0091 - JAN 9, 2024

This again, Apple?

Getting an app into Apple’s app store without giving up 30% of profits is something the team at 37signals battled back in 2020 when it launched the HEY email service. What they didn’t expect would be to have some of the same challenges in 2024 with the HEY Calendar app.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0090 - JAN 3, 2024

How We Work: Fewer Meetings, More Check-Ins

Today, we’re diving into a question that has piqued the curiosity of many of our listeners and clients: How exactly does 37signals keep track of all the moving pieces in a fully remote company with team members spread throughout the world?

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0089 - DEC 27, 2023

Working with a Business Partner

In this week’s episode of REWORK, host Kimberly Rhodes sits down with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson to share the essential elements that foster a thriving partnership.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0088 - DEC 20, 2023

Look Back Less

“If you’re going to look back at all, you should glance back but not stare.”— Jason Fried

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0087 - DEC 13, 2023

Narrow As You Go

In their book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson stress the importance of narrowing the scope as a project unfolds, emphasizing, “After the initial dust settles, the work required to finish a project should be dwindling over time, not expanding.”

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0086 - DEC 6, 2023

Calendar Tetris

Ever find yourself trapped in a game of “Calendar Tetris,” where each meeting block interrupts the natural flow of your day, leaving you little room for meaningful work?

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0085 - NOV 29, 2023

The Outwork Myth

In today’s hustle-centric work environment, there’s a prevailing pressure to showcase constant busyness, sometimes at the expense of genuine productivity.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0084 - NOV 22, 2023

What are you REALLY buying?

Every time you make a purchase, whether it’s a tangible product or a service, you’re casting a vote with your dollars for the type of company you want to support and the choices they make.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0083 - NOV 15, 2023

Underdo the Competition

In business, the idea that more is better often leads companies to engage in an endless race to add more features while losing sight of what truly matters to their users.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0082 - NOV 8, 2023

Speaking Gigs, Attending Conferences, and the Importance of Gathering

In a world dominated by virtual interactions, coming together in person offers an opportunity to foster deeper human connections that are impossible to achieve through any other means. Jason Fried recently took the stage in Vancouver and David Heinemeier Hansson did the same at Rails World in...

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 0081 - NOV 1, 2023

The F*#k No Feature

Have you ever wanted to bid farewell to bothersome emails without the hassle of unsubscribing or composing polite “please stop emailing me” requests?

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